Thursday, June 05, 2008

MORE FALSE HOPE, FOR PARENTS KEPT FROM THEIR CHILDREN

MORE FALSE HOPE, FOR PARENTS KEPT FROM THEIR CHILDREN

Peter van de Voorde. June 2008

In Australia, the Family Law Council, which is the Federal Government’s advisory body on family law matters, has called for the establishment of a Child Orders Enforcement Agency, along similar lines to the Child Support Agency.

Aggrieved non custodial parents who have been denied court-ordered access to their children, since the inception of a Draconian Family Law Industry, some 35 years ago and who have been calling for such measures to be taken for more than three decades, do not hold their breath. They have long ago lost faith in a system in which the scales of justice are tilted firmly in favour of custodial parents. Any suggested changes to what has been shown to be such a gross travesty of justice for so long, is viewed with great skepticism.

Alarm bells ring immediately when it is noted the council’s report, “Improving Post Parenting Order Processes”, was prepared by a committee of eminent judges, magistrates and legal academics who wrote the report under Patrick Parkinson, professor of law at the University of Sydney, whose term as council chairman has expired.

Hundreds of thousands of the nation’s victims of the Family Law Industry, both parents and children, have witnessed at first hand how the odds are stacked against them from the moment a parent becomes a Non Custodial Parent.

Where have the above judges, magistrates and legal academics been for the past 35 years? Why has there been such a deafening silence all these years from the above committee members? Were they not aware of what was going on or were they too busy plundering the family wealth from separating families? Did the eminent members of the bench not hear the cries of anguish from the non custodial parents and their children all these years, while they turned a blind eye to the forcible removal of children from non custodial parents by vindictive, and in many cases disordered and dysfunctional Custodial parents. Why for the past 35 years, have members of the bench refused to use the punitive measures at their disposal, in order to ensure that non custodial parents and their children remain connected following parental separation. Their failure to do so is a crime against humanity and an abuse of the rights of our Nation’s children.

For the past 35 years we have witnessed the mockery of a Family Justice System pretending to uphold the principle of equality and impartiality in what can only be described as a mal- administration of Family Law matters. Millions of the nation’s parents and children, who have had the misfortune to become victims of this Industry, have for the past 35 years protested against the way the scales of justice in Family Law are tipped heavily one way, in order to help maintain the frenzy of the Law profession and their mercenaries, in the pursuit of plundering the family wealth from unsuspecting separating parents.

The Laws governing Family law matters were drafted by Lawyers, with the main beneficiaries being the law profession and associated mercenaries, who have now joined in a growing melee to capture a share of these ill-gotten spoils. The law profession’s success depends on how much conflict and animosity is present or can be created, for them to mount an economically successful case. The sole custodial parent model following separation has provided them with a guaranteed high level of ongoing conflict, and by definition it has provided them with a lucrative economic outcome.

Family Laws which were drafted in the early seventies were supposedly designed to help solve the problems associated with the highly emotive issues of parental separation, especially the issue of child custody and the right and need, to ensure ongoing contact of non custodial parents with their children, unless it was unsafe for them to do so.

However whether by accident or by intent THE RELEVANT SOLE PARENT CUSTODY MODEL WAS ADOPTED, SO AS TO GUARANTEE FAILURE, with the resulting horrendous ramifications for all those who incorrectly believed that justice would prevail, and that by using the family justice system, at least enduring contact with their children would be ensured.

This effectively means that any Court Orders you may have obtained, mostly at great expense, have a totally different meaning depending on whether you have been made a custodial parent or a non custodial or contact parent. So there are two totally different outcomes for one set of Court Orders.

1. From the moment you are made a custodial parent, you have effectively been given absolute power and control over every aspect of your children’s life, can ignore the Court Orders with impunity, and can eliminate the other parent and extended family members out of the children’s life with ease. The methods used have been well documented for decades.

2. From the moment you are made a non custodial or contact parent you no longer have any say in any aspects of what happens in your children’s life. You are no longer able to protect them, love, support and care for them and you can be totally eliminated from your children’s life with frightening speed and ease. To add insult to injury, you can then be accused of abandoning your children and subsequently labeled a deadbeat parent.

The adverse impact of such injustices are further highlighted by the fact that if a non-custodial parent contravenes articles of the Court Order, such as not returning the children on time from a contact visit, the CUSTODIAL PARENT simply picks up the phone, calls the police and the offending parent is immediately labeled a kidnapper, hostage taker or child abductor, and set upon by various federal and local police agencies. The only cost incurred to the Custodial Parent is the cost of the phone call.

By sharp contrast if the CUSTODIAL parent decides to ignore and contravene the same set of Court Orders, and refuse to let a child have anything further to do with their non custodial parent even if they live in the same street, the non custodial parent’s only recourse is to take the matter back to the very Court which failed them so miserably in the first place. No simple phone call for them, but rather further expensive legal proceedings which ultimately lead to nothing, if a recalcitrant Custodial parent decides to ignore the directions of the Court. In their twisted logic the Industry reasons that to upset the Custodial parent would be detrimental to the “Best Interest of the Child”.

This is what the Family Justice Industry sees as an equitable outcome.

Following 35 years of silence, these eminent members of the Family Law Council committee, have now recommended that a “small, independent (enforcement) agency with offices in each capital city” would be the best way to respond to serious breaches of contact orders. They have suddenly decided that serious and willful disregard of parenting orders was a matter of public interest and that a child’s best interest was at stake when a parent breached an order that a court had deemed beneficial to the child.. They also belatedly consider that such breaches brought the Family Court into disrepute.

With their collective tongues firmly planted in their cheeks, they suggest these enforcement agencies would encourage parents to resolve disputes without litigation. But then true to form and making sure to protect the lucrative status quo of their Industry and in order to maintain the standard of living of their fellow members of the Law fraternity, they recommend litigation should be instituted against the offending parent in the Family Court with the aggrieved parent able to instruct a Lawyer provided by the agency.

The committee acknowledges their recommendations would be an expensive exercise, and therefore propose that extra funding be made available to legal aid commissions in order to help parents fund enforcement matters before the Family Courts.

To all those who have been a victim of this badly flawed system, it would appear to be nothing more than an attempt to create a growth in public funded ineffectual pursuits of enforcement of contravention orders in the Family Court. Perhaps there is a downturn in the numbers of aggrieved parents seeking justice from this farcical institution.

You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to recognize that a court which refuses to punish habitual offenders for contravention of their own orders, is going to do anything different just because the aggrieved parents are represented by legal aid Lawyers.

The eminent members of the Family Law Council Committee suggest that such legal actions in the Family Court as they recommend would ensure compliance. With all due respect eminent members, could you please explain how you see your recommendations ensuring compliance?????

This is all smoke and mirrors gobbledygook, designed to make it look as if they are a caring Court with “The Best Interest of the Children” at heart. However all the available evidence would suggest otherwise.

If this committee was even remotely serious at trying to resolve the ongoing flagrant contraventions of Court ordered Contact Orders, it would have been better to consider the proposal by Family Law campaigner Simon Hunt, of a “CONTACT RECOVERY ORDER” or (CRO)

Unfortunately all the available evidence shows that when practical commonsense suggestions are made to resolve this travesty of justice against non custodial parents and their children, it is either ignored or ridiculed by all those engaged in maintaining the status quo for their own self interests.

The following is an explanation of the CROs by Mr Hunt. I believe this would also be a practical and effective low cost mechanism to enforce Court Ordered Contact Orders

    The Recovery of Contact Order (RCO) mechanism is a simple way of protecting children facing the separation of their parents and will prevent most custody cases from even starting (because there is no aggrieved party to initiate litigation).


    Immediately enforceable Recovery of Contact Order (RCO)

    POLICY
    Protecting children from having of their parents removed by the other upon separation.

    THE MECHANISM
    That any parent denied equal parenting time of their child or children can apply for immediate relief by way of a Recovery of Contact Order (RCO) protecting the child's relationship with both its parents. The excluded parent would obtain the RCO from the police or the magistrate or district court clerks office. Like an AVO or Intervention Order the Recovery of Contact Order (RCO) would be effective immediately and immediately enforceable by the police. It would provide the applicant up to a maximum of seven days of contact with their child per fortnight (or less by agreement).

    Like an AVO or Intervention Order the application would go to court within days so that the respondent party, the parent withholding the child or children, has the opportunity to oppose the order.

    If he RCO is not opposed it stays in force.

    If the RCO is opposed, the arguments and evidence of the respondent parent will be assessed by the court and a decision made to either;

    i) dismiss the respondent's case,

    ii) refer the matter to the Family Court or Federal Magistrates Court whilst making an interim order for the contact requested by the Applicant Parent up to 50% ie: 7 days a fortnight (or less as agreed), or partial or complete exclusion of the applicant parent. The court may also order that allegations of child abuse or neglect are investigated by an appropriates child protection agency.

    Prior to hearing the RCO would be effective immediately and immediately enforceable by the police unless the withholding parent lays criminal charges of abuse or serious neglect with the police, in which case the matter would be heard by the Magistrate or District Court before restoration of contact (50% or less by agreement) can be enforced.

    VERY YOUNG CHILDREN
    RCOs would not be effective immediately or immediately enforceable when the child is less that one years old or is being breast fed but would none the less be promptly adjudicated by the Magistrates court.

    FAMILY VIOLENCE Allegations of violence, be they genuine or contrived, would not be grounds to exclude one the child's parents when third party change over arrangements can be made.

Saturday, April 05, 2008

RCOs (Recovery of Contact Orders)

Recovery of Contact Orders - protecting children from one parent excluding the other .

The proposal is surprisingly simple. It focuses on protecting children on the harm caused by Family Court litigation by protecting them from having one of their parents excluded by the other without first obtaining Family Court approval.

The proposal is based on the use of Contact Restoration Order that would be obtained from a Magistrates or District court in the same way as an AVO (Apprehended Violence Order or Intervention Order) – so that the child’s relationship with both its parents is not compromised until a Judge has the opportunity to assess the application of the parent that wants to deny the other parent from a relationship with their child.

Like AVOs RCOs would be enforceable immediately so that the child is protected from harm form the initial instant.

RCOs would provide each parent with 50% custody of their children (or less by agreement) on a week about basis (or otherwise by agreement).

Like AVOs, RCOs would be subject to prompt adjudication in Court – normally in a matter of days if opposed by the other parent.

RCOs would not be effective immediately is charges of abuse of serious neglect are filed with the Police.

Essentially this reverse the current process where children have one of their parents ejected from their lives unilaterally on the say so of the excluding parent, leaving the excluded parent with the only option of mounting a legal case in the Family Court by way of an application for shared parenting. The RCO mechanism would turn the tables so the parent wishing to exclude the other parent must first obtain a court order to do so based on evidence that the other parent presents an unacceptable risk to the child.

Third party weekly change over arrangements would ensure children don’t suffer the loss of one parent from their lives when one parent makes accusations of abuse of Family Violence.

Please post your comments . Can you see any reason why this wouldn't get media support? ...why RCOs wouldn't fix the problem for all, save those who have a vested interest in the divorce industry.


Regards
Simon Hunt
Family Law Action Group (FLAG)

Monday, January 21, 2008

Why the vested interests have it over us.

The following dicussion (today) covers some interesting issues. Its seems many haaaven't yet realised that we are fighting people who make money from the suffering of our children and belive it or not women too.
Simon


Peter,
Yes our children's welfare is the issue that we need to focus on.
Calling for the protection of women is hard to stomach if you've been on the receiving end, as I have.
However It is a useful tactic, and quite valid in many cases. Its an effective weapon against the vested interest who claim to be fighting for women.
It disempowers them.
Anything we say against women empowers them, because they control the media goons - their press releases get published and they have the last word.
I'd like to see them try to defend their industry once we come our fighting for children ...and (for those who can) women.
Regards,
Simon Hunt
Family Law Action Group
Mornington
Phone: +61 (0)3 5973 6933
Mobile: 0414 415 693
vascopajama@dodo.com.au
http://mumsdadsandkidsagainstsolecust.blogspot.com/
http://thefamilycourtphenomenon.blogspot.com/
www.dashlite.com.au
"Protecting children from losing a parent after separation".


Paul,
Please do not presume to speak for me.
Complaining about the cause of a problem as opposed to the symptoms is not manipulative. Its sensible and realistic, especially given our complaints get spun (manipulated) to suggest that we are more interested in ourselves than our children.
Regards,
Simon Hunt
Family Law Action Group
Mornington
Phone: +61 (0)3 5973 6933
Mobile: 0414 415 693
vascopajama@dodo.com.au
http://mumsdadsandkidsagainstsolecust.blogspot.com/
http://thefamilycourtphenomenon.blogspot.com/
www.dashlite.com.au
"Protecting children from losing a parent after separation".


Hi Ron,

RE "Simon I can't totally agree. CSA need to be kept in line and their Officers charged for abuse and/or misuse of the very powerful laws they have at their disposal."

I think Simon's proposals represent a realistic assessment of the methods that have worked against him in this twisted process. Are they worthless? Not really. He has assessed the system and is responding in kind.

I have to say that I do not agree with many of Simon's proposed tactics. They strike me as manipulative and playing into the hands of our opponents. The tactics validate the tactics of our opponents by imitating them.


PaulD


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Peter,
Yes our children's welfare is the issue that we need to focus on.
Calling for the protection of women is hard to stomach if you've been on the receiving end, as I have.
However It is a useful tactic, and quite valid in many cases. Its an effective weapon against the vested interest who claim to be fighting for women.
It disempowers them.
Anything we say against women empowers them, because they control the media goons - their press releases get published and they have the last word.
I'd like to see them try to defend their industry once we come our fighting for children ...and (for those who can) women.
Regards,
Simon Hunt
Family Law Action Group

Unfortunately the facts don't help us. They get ignored and denied.
A campaign to protect Children is different however. Everybody knows children suffer terribly when their fathers are removed. This is shown to be the case is countless media polls.Focus on the suffering of children instead of men and we'll make head way.
This is our opportunity to stop the abuse because right now they get their strength from claiming to be protecting children.
Our attempts to expose the facts of CSA abuse, suicides, and calls for fairness and equity are used against us every time by simply claiming to be protecting children and women.
This can't happen when we call for the protection of children (and women) from them !
Regards,
Simon Hunt
Family Law Action Group

Simon - I agree with what you say here - move solely on the premise and behave accordingly, that this is to protect the relationship with their Father and Mother in all circumstances of Our Current and Future Generations of Children. IMO we need to start bashing the Federal Gov't. Hammering home the untimely death of Fathers subsequent to FLC rulings and CSA decisions as well as demanding an explanation for the overwhelming imbalance of granting Primary Care to mothers. The Federal Gov't can't explain without crucifying themselves so pushed their best option is to actually enact legislation that 'effectively' introduces 'Equal Parenting Time'. One only need to make correlations between these deaths after CSA and FLC actions for eyes to start opening and see the writing on the wall for their 'own' demise. Obviously the media will publish if it's 'juicy' enough for them - but they need facts and figures. These facts and figures are those which are so covetedly hidden by the Federal Gov't through the 'Privacy Legislation' enacted and which both CSA and the FLC hide under.
I know what will sting the Federal Gov't and that is emails from all 'affected' parents demanding 'Equal Parenting Time' and the Explanation of the imbalance. The responses will be intelligence insulting rhetoric - so as quick as it arrives it can be publicly debunked - bad press for the Gov't. And then 750,000 Australians tell the Federal Gov't 'Not good enough matey and, ask the same questions again. The problem is that none of the Govt's have even got a first round of fire from the 750,000 Australians - and they believe they never will! Why??? It's times like these I wish the Good Fairy would send a 'John Laws' or 'Mike Willisee' into our midst!

Okay, we're on the same page now!

And yes I do agree that the devil in the garden, is the scum that makes it's 30 pieces of silver every time a marriage breaks down.
However, to make your plan work, we will need to leave the little poisonous ladies out of the equation altogether. Even though the professional leeches are helping them all the way; the fact is these women are not victims in any sense at all and deserve no help nor do they deserve any sympathy. The only consideration they do deserve is one of a common criminal, because that is precisely what they are.

By the way, I know of many marriage break ups, and I haven't yet come across a woman who has gone too far because of being led down the garden path by a silver tongued serpent. Most of the marriage break ups I have had knowledge of, ended up with the parties agreeing without the use of lawyers or the divorce court. However, the few that went to court were all the handy work of the vicious woman, who was intent on destroying the father. Believe me, the fathers were not all people I had anything in common with. In some cases I knew the women and was astounded at their behaviour and couldn't believe that under the shell of the woman I thought I knew, was a sleeping monster.

So, to get members on side with your cause Simon, you will need to delete all references to protecting these poor damsels and just concentrate 100% on protecting children from the system that is intent on destroying their lives and then put together a plan that will go head long into battle with the idiot heralds who will put any rubbish in their papers as long as it makes money. Then hopefully they might start publishing some of the stories that show how children are continually abused by these government departments.

If you mention anything about protecting these poor misled women, you will not only lose the support of almost 100% of injured fathers; you will also have the nasty fems smelling around you like you are a wolf in sheep's clothing and eventually they will simply put down your story as a conceited attempt at getting in through the back door.

So, 'wounded fathers', is out!
And protecting 'misled mothers', is out!

The only thing we can concentrate on here, is the damage done to children by the system/govt and how govt meddling has destroyed the lives of children, both indigenous and white, by interfering in the lives of families where there lies a taboo for govts. If the govt is not invited; it has no right or authority to interfere and act, without undeniable facts and proof of a crime.

If that crime does not exist, then the court has no jurisdiction!

As I stated in an earlier post, we need to start demanding that if there is no charge or conviction, then the court must disqualify itself and not get involved.

This is our right and we should be forcing this to happen!

Peter G

So Paul, are you suggesting we continue on as we have been complaining about the injustice and setting our selves up up criticism as being more interested in our selves than our children? Because that's what happens now.

You seem to forget that the vested interests can get any press release they write published. They can do this becuase they claim to be protecting women and children ...from us!

When we start lobbying for the protection of children, instead of complaining about the injustises, we'll get the press. Otherwise we'll continue to be side lined. And the abusers of our children will continue to be seen as their protectors.

And whats manipulative about trying to protect our children? Just becuase you don't have any and aren't interested in protecting children shouldn't make you blind to the fact that our children are being used to hurt us. This forum is fathers4equality not males4equality. I suggest you go somewhere else if you're not interested in protecting children.

Again I say protecting children - regaining our authority as fathers of our children is the key to solving the CSA, false allegation and suicide problems.

Simon.

Peter,
Your right of course but I can assure you women are encouraged all the way, to make these alligations. Its what the game's all about.
The AVO is normally the first thing a solicitor does - and we all know the grief they cause.
I've no doubt that most need little encouragement to make these alligations. The thing is they shouldn't be encouraged to do so.
They should be encouraged to do the right thing by their children, and them selves.
I know of plenty of cases where women who have every intention of doing the right thing by their kids, get goaded into making allegations of abuse. Its how Family Law solicitors make their money. As you say, most are inclined to do so anyway. ie its not hard for solicitors make sure it happens.
The main point however is that by standing up for women as opposed to blaming them (for not having the good sense to reject their solicitor's advise) is getting the media on side and focused on really protecting women and children, whilst exposing the vested interest for the abusers they are.
Its a strategy thing. We don't want the press banding us as misogynists, and that's what will happen every time, unless we're smart about it.
As the saying goes 'God have no fury like a woman scorned'. They certainly don't need encouragement and facilitation from slime ball Family Court solicitors and practicioners.
Regards,
Simon Hunt

Simon,

Mate, I agree with all you wrote here but there is one thing you keep putting in most of your emails that I most definitely disagree with and I hope you haven't honestly convinced yourself that what you say is true in most cases, because if you have you are deluding yourself.

You wrote:

"This and the abuse of women by the practitioners of the court is what we need to expose to divest the feminazi of their power in the media and in government."

I'm sorry mate, but if you think the majority of these cunning criminal women who are doing the utmost to kidnap children, lie, cheat, steal, and drive a father to his grave deliberately, are victims of lawyers and court workers; then you are a bloody fool!

How the hell did you come to this conclusion?

I will accept that there will be a small percentage who will do more than they intended because of pressure from all the professional scum in the industry. But I most certainly won't accept that the mean or majority are victims of the same professional manipulation.

The bulk of these women are full-on willing to go as far as they possibly can and they are delighted that there are many unscrupulous operators out there who are willing to show them a sure fire way of destroying their ex. The unfortunate thing for most of these women is that they actually have to show some restraint in the end, even if they have won every battle and virtually destroyed their target.

I agree with the cause you champion with regard fighting for the rights of children and not vilifying mothers/women, but if you want the support of people like me and others, you will need to stop spouting the utter garbage that women/mothers in general are actually victims of the system.
That is the greatest load of bullshit I have every heard!

These blood hungry women are over the moon with the prospects that they can do what ever they like. The only thing that does piss them off, is that they actually have to pay the slimey hitmen and hitwomen, who carry out the contract on their behalf.


And to the rest of the group, if I am wrong please tell me very loud and clear with lots of info to shove it down my throat any which way but loose.
And if you guys can all come up with good info to prove that I am just being a sour puss and let me have it here in the group, then I will eat humble pie and admit my fault and mistaken belief.

Somehow, I don't think any of you are going to be very convincing in trying to get me to believe that the general population or the majority of women/mothers who are instigating action in the divorce court are actually victims.

Just remember, we all know that the bulk of broken marriages don't go all the way to the end with the courts and a lot are settled well before that even without lawyers. It is a certain mongrel element of woman who is doing all this damage and deliberately heading for the family destruction system, and these are the people that Simon seems to be talking about by the context of his statements.
That is if my dyslexia hasn't gone and done another snow job on me yet again.

And if it has, Simon I do humbly apologise and withdraw all I have said and beg your forgiveness!

Peter G

Friday, November 30, 2007

In regards to Carmel McCallam - MP Greens Party Australia

In regards to Carmel McCallam.

I am a second wife. My husband had literally nothing when I met him,
he did not even own his own bed. He told me of his life before his
divorce. For my husband and many like him, there is a before and
after, before divorce then after. Before his divorce, he had a home,
he was working, he had furniture and money in the bank. He got to
see his children every day, hug them, kiss them, talk to them, parent
them. After the divorce, he had his son for 2 1/2 years, to cut it
short, the Judge that heard his case, talked a lot about Status Quo,
which was hypocritical, as the status quo would have been to allow my
husband to retain his son in his custody, his daughter's to stay with
their mother and to share alternative weekends, with the children
being together on weekends, one at their mother's, the other at their
father's.

Mother's who are seen to be having difficulty parenting are offered
parenting courses, yet retain custody. Father's simply lose custody
and are restricted as to how much time they can spend with their
children.

My husband has not seen his children in 7 years. He will get no help
from the legal community in trying to regain contact, to be brief, my
husband's ex took their children out of state while my husband's
access was suspended, yes due to his own actions, he refused one day
to return his son to her, as his son said he did not want to return
to his mother's. My understanding of the law is even if access is
suspended, it is still a court order, and was to be respected. By
taking the children out of state, this breeched the order, BUT
instead of enforcing the law, the courts simply ignored it, and now
refuse to assist in any way, because of the length of time. They
disregard that we have approached them several times over the course
of 5 years, and got no assistance, which has lengthened the time, and
now that is used against my husband.

I live with his divorce everyday.

I live with the ghosts of his first marriage.

My husband and I will not have a child together, because he is
fearful of losing another child he loves.

My husband is wary of buying a house, of establishing anything,
because he does not want to put everything into anything, then see it
disappear again. He does not want to start all over like he had to
before.

If he makes any money at all, despite the fact he would use it to
support his family, CSA ensures his ex wife has her cut. This angers
me, that we would go without, while money hard earned by our efforts,
our sacrifices, will be handed to her to support her in her chosen
lifestyle.

I do not resent him paying child support, I think it is only fair,
YET, this money does not go to the child, it is given to the mother.
Fair enough when the child is under the age of 15, but once they are
16, it should go to them. I do feel child support should be put in
TRUST for the child, and only accessed to purchase clothes, pay
school fee's and any other essential needs for the child, rather than
paid directly over to the mother. Most mother's recieve a parenting
payment, which is paid to support the child, to be honest, this money
is to provide a roof over the child's head, food, clothing, a bed,
for their schooling and other daily needs. Yet some mother's use
this money paid to them by CSA as a lifestyle, for their own needs
and wants, NOT the child's.

I also feel Child support should be paid in proportion to how much
time the paying parent spends with the child. Quite simply, some
mothers, like my husband's ex, take the children away, prevent the
other parent from seeing the children, yet still get paid by the
parent who no longer see's their children. In cases like this, CSA
should suspend all child support payments and also establish a debt
for the length of time the custodial parent keeps the children away
from the paying parent, to discourage interstate abduction and abuse
of the current CSA system.

I am aware there are the paying parents out there that have no
interest in seeing their child, exceptions can be made in those
cases. It must be proven that the paying parent has made no effort,
to discourage those who would take advantage by saying they want to
see their child, just to use a loophole. They must prove a
relationship, and one that is productive and benificial to the child.

Only in the cases where there is PROVEN domestic abuse, the child is
the product of rape or incest, should there be more leniency.

Children deserve BOTH parents. they are NOT trophies, spoils of war,
they are not a meal ticket. Children are currently being used by
many warring parents to hurt the other, some parents are so blinded
by their personal feelings towards the other parent, they forget
their children's feelings and needs. BOTH parents need to
acknowledge the value the other parent has. Children need BOTH
parents, they deserve to be secure in the knowledge that BOTH parents
love them, and not feel that they have to chose, feel the guilt that
is shoved upon them by forcing them to take sides.

Children do not suffer from being loved, a child cannot have enough
love.

It is time the Law fixed those cases like my husband's, not continue
to aid and abet the parent that callously removed the children by
refusing to help.

My husband has the custody papers, LEGAL papers giving him RIGHTS.
Yet the very system that is supposed to UPHOLD these papers,
refuses.

My husband's ex gets to hug those children, kiss them, talk to them,
see them daily. My husband gets the odd message from the children
through his parents, often feeling they just say what they do as
comfort to him. He gets the crumbs.

The irony, if this had only happened 6 months ago, he could have a
recovery order, location order and his children would restored to
him. But because of a non sympathetic system, one that failed
numerous father's, becasue the orders are 7 yrs old, and because he
was NOT informed, he had nowhere to turn and no support, he has
effectively lost his children for the forseeable future.

It is too long says legal Aid. Yet 5 years ago when we first
approached them, it was not, YET we were turned away. We have been
trying to get access restored to my husband for 5 YEARS, and were
TURNED away everytime.

Just to be able to talk to them on the phone, send them Xmas cards
and presents, say Happy birthday to them, send them a card and
presents, would mean so much to him, and to me, as i would see the
sadness in his eyes vanish. Yet, because the LAW refuses to uphold
LEGAL papers, this will be denied to him.

So, when you hug your children, kiss them, talk to them, spare a
thought for men like my husband that would give anything just to be
able to do this just once.

Father's deserve equal rights, they deserve to be able to parent and
to have it enforced.

from "Ms Bevaving

Sunday, November 25, 2007

Philip Ruddock - RCO's to protect children....and mothers ...and fathers !





To all,

RCO's to protect

To All
RCO's to protect children....and mothers ...and fathers !

(Now that'll silence the anti shared parenting brigade!)

Also please see Anne Blessington MP interview on children of divorse http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=22625518

Just got the above interesting letter from Ruddock (pity he's no longer involved) ...attached.

If only he would recognise that it will only stop once children are protected from having one parent "disqualified in the first place - ie: with a Recovery of Contact Order, effective immediately and answerable in Court within days (like an AVO). The immediate enforcement of an RCO could be prevented by laying criminal charges with the Police of abuse of neglect of the children. Family Violence allegations would not be allowed to deprive the children of a parent when change overs can be arranged at day care, school or through 3rd paries.

This would mean the parent seeking to exclude the other, would first have to convince a Court that its was in the children's interests. Not as now, when the excluded parent has to convince a judge that they should be included, when the status quo of living arrangements have already been established - unilaterally, often with the help of AVOs -
a process that takes expert reports and sometimes years of graduated increases in contact to a weekend a fortnight, half holidays regime). An RCO mechanism would move the onus to the parent who wanted to exclude the other, to prove that their children would be better off without their other parent substantially in their lives.
The ongoing suffering caused by the alienation of a child's parent with smears and allegations of abuse, comes home to roost, with these children growing up to be ;
5 times more likely to commit suicide;
14 times more likely to commit rape;
9 times more likely to drop out of high school;
10 times more likely to abuse chemicals;
9 times more likely to end up in a state-operated institution; and
20 times more likely to end up in prison.

Once RCOs can protect children from losing one of their parents, in most cases there's nothing to fight about. Most applications are brought about by fathers who have been denied equal or sufficient time with there kids, so the cases that do get fought over would be the ones where there were real problems with one of the parents. It protects both parents from being excluded - man and woman alike - not just one of them. This takes away most of the fear of losing the custody battles - fear of loosing the children. Fear that is typically exploited by Family Court lawyers and practitioners.

Regards,
Simon Hunt
PARENTS AGAINST INSTITUTIONALISED CHILD ABUSE
Mornington
Phone: +61 (0)3 5973 6933
Mobile: 0414 415 693
vascopajama@dodo.com.au
http://mumsdadsandkidsagainstsolecust.blogspot.com/
http://thefamilycourtphenomenon.blogspot.com/
www.dashlite.com.au

"Protecting children from having one of their parents removed by the other upon separation".

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 3:14 AM
Subject: RE: [fathers4equality] Re: [MichDads] Mandatory joint custody | A Family Court judge's view
Yes but we are up until now mostly pommie, Irish or Welsh descendant. Aussie men have been pushed to the wall and I am really pleased to see the fight back growing now. It's a 'new breed' of 'DAD' - I am pleased to say for the most an improved version on the 1920/30's version. The change to 'Rebuttable presumption of Equal Parenting Time' will happen, shoulder to wheel - now in the trenches (where we are) there's no match for us! The divorce statistics show the numbers of 'disqualified Fathers' which is growing. It's just now reaching a significant number to 'worry' the politicians and they are beginning to take note. A real eye opener will be if there is a swing against both major parties 24/11. That's when we push harder and say - You weren't in touch with us Fathers and Gov't is swinging away from you and will continue to do so. A Gov't that can't pass it's own Bills will be a great result for 24/11.

CHEERS !Ron Email macroes6@hotmail.com


Monday, November 12, 2007

Reversing the onus

Immediately enforceable Recovery of Contact Order (RCO)

After much discussion with the Richard Hillman Foundation, Adelaide
and others regarding concerns when one parent really is a danger to their
own children, (a situation I find hard to imagine but am assured is
sometimes a problem) I believe RCOs can include the following safeguards:

If the mother, for example, wanted to resist the RCO on the grounds of
genuine concerns for the child's safety with the other parent, two options
are available to her;

1. She lays charges with the police of child abuse (that could include
serious neglect), which would immediately prevent the enforcement of the RCO
until it can be adjudicated in court.

2. She breaches the order, in which case she's got some explaining to do
when it comes to court (all RCOs would be subject to a prompt hearing in the
Magistrates or District Court just like AVOs).

Child welfare / protection agencies,
I believe these are very dangerous because they almost always approach the
problem by taking sides. Its just the way they operate - unsophisticated as
it is. Mainly due to the anti-male culture of the industry, the feminist
teachings (all men are rapists/bastards) and the immaturity and lack of life
experience of the staff. They also subject children to invasive and
suggestive interrogation. I believe the above two safeguards
provide children with adequate protection from 'monster parents'.

It should be borne in mind that the RCOs will provide for *up to* 50% shared
parenting. Fathers or mothers could opt for less than 50% if they wanted.
Family Relationship centres would be able to operate effectively because one
parent would not be able to exclude the other, off their own bat.

*Presumption of Equal Parenting Time*
The RCO is the only way a Presumption of Equal Parenting Time can be
protected - otherwise one parent can exclude the other, and thereby forcing
them to mount a legal challenge to attempt to regain contact with their
children.

*PR*
RCOs are designed to protect children from the dangers associated with
losing the care and protection of having both parents. eg: abuse and neglect,
emotional and developmental problems, drug abuse, teen pregnancy
- and sexual abuse (sole parents need a
break, they can't look after their children 24/7).

RCOs are not about men's rights - they are about children's safety and best
interests. Opponents of Presumption of Equal Parenting Time and RCOs start
to be seen for what they are - vested interests who are disinterested in
protecting children from harm.

*Family Violence* be it real or contrived, must not be allowed to have any
bearing on equal parenting arrangements when change over can be made at
school or through third parties.

*Benefits*
Contrary to popular belief, the Family Court doesn't exclude fathers from
children's lives. Rather it prevents fathers from being reunited with their
children after they've been excluded by the other parent - unilaterally.
It's an important difference. Once the onus of proof is born by the
excluder, courts can be expected to be as obstructive as they are now - of
efforts to exclude one parent (eg: the father).

The Family Court is very reluctant to make decisions that change the
arrangements for children without lots of "expert" involvement - eg:
physiological and psychiatric reports, Family Welfare reports etc. When a
child's association with both parents is protected by law with RCOs the
situation is reversed. The excluder must substantiate their case - not the
excluded. Most Judges will be disinclined to upset living arrangements for
children on the basis of unproven allegations - more so since recent
governments directives to support the shared parenting.

Most women won't feel desperate enough (and therefore vulnerable to
solicitors and other "professionals") in the initial stages of custody
litigation to make outrageously false allegations. They won't have to fear
losing their children to the other parent for a start. Their contact with
their children will be protected as much as the father's. Plus their
children will not have been exposed to the conflict of custody litigation
for long enough to be traumatised.

For cases where mothers do make nasty false allegations "right out of the
box", they will need to be much more credible. Polygraph testing could be a
good way of dealing with these cases if and when they arise.

Its a known fact that most sexual abuse allegations get made as a last
resort, after protracted litigation. They seldom get made in the initial
instance. RCOs would avoid the problem in most cases.

RCOs would also avoid unfair CSA assessments because both parents can care
for their children - equally.

RCOs would not be immediately enforceable if opposed on the grounds that
children are under 1 years or that they are being breast fed but they would
still be subject to adjudication by a court.

Regards,
Simon Hunt
PARENTS AGAINST INSTITUTIONALISED CHILD ABUSE
Mornington
Phone: +61 (0)3 5973 6933
Mobile: 0414 415 693
vascopajama@dodo.com.au
http://mumsdadsandkidsagainstsolecust.blogspot.com/
http://thefamilycourtphenomenon.blogspot.com/
www.dashlite.com.au

Equal time parenting after separation - the solution that removes the
problem.

POLICY

Abolition of unilateral summary exclusion one of the child's parents by the other.

That it be illegal for either parent to be able to unilaterally exclude the child from the life of the other parent.

Mechanism

That any parent denied equal parenting time of their child or children (or less as agreed) can apply for immediate relief by way of a Recovery of Contact Order (RCO) protecting the child's relationship with both its parents. The excluded parent would obtain the RCO from the police or the magistrate or district court clerks office. Like an AVO or Intervention Order the Recovery of Contact Order (RCO) would be effective immediately and immediately enforceable by the police.

Like an AVO or Intervention Order the application would go to court within days so that the respondent party, the parent withholding the child or children, has the opportunity to oppose the order.

If he RCO is not opposed it stays in force.

If the RCO is opposed, the arguments and evidence of the respondent parent will be assessed by the court and a decision made to either;

i) dismiss the respondent's case,

ii) refer the matter to the Family Court or Federal Magistrates Court whilst making an interim order for the contact requested by the Applicant Parent up to 50% (or less as agreed), or partial or complete exclusion of the applicant parent. The court may also order that allegations of child abuse or neglect are investigated by an appropriates child protection agency.

Prior to hearing the RCO would be effective immediately and immediately enforceable by the police unless the withholding parent lays criminal charges of abuse or serious neglect with the police, in which case the matter would be heard by the Magistrate or District Court before restoration of contact (50% or less by agreement) can be enforced.

Very young children

RCOs would not be effective immediately or immediately enforceable when the child i

s less that one years old or being breast fed but would none the less be promptly adjudicated by the Magistrates court.

Family Violence

Allegations of violence be the genuine or contrived will not be grounds to exclude one the child's parents when third party change over arrangements can be made.

Stuff

Thanks Don,

I'd be very careful of the cookie cutter argument. Its being used to excuse
the Family Court for the damages it so routinely creates.
It a very cynical and effective use of words to pervert human rights.

Every case - every child, is the same insofar as the child has the right to
be safe from harm and should be allowed every opportunity to prosper in
life. This is what we - people of Australia want. We don't want parents
thrown out of children's lives by avaricious lawyers and the 'judgemental'
disciplinarians - the dinosaurs Judges of the Family Courts (who see family
law as a contest between parents for custody, who use 'Contact' with
children to punish parents when they are supposed to be protecting
children - who routinely declare in court that one parent "isn't going to
like the decisions they make").

The fact that sole parent kids do badly in life is well accepted and
documented. Protecting these children from the lawyers and the system that
profits from their demise is not "a cookie cutter" approach. Its compassion
and its justice.

Every child has the right to equal time with both its parents if each of
them is willing and able to provide such care.

individual cases of parents being dangerous to their children should not be
allowed to deny all other children equal time with their parents.

Have a look at the argument - its nothing short of a devious deception.
Should the detainees of our refugee camps be provided with a 'cookie cutter"
"one size fist all" solution of freedom?

Should the detainees of Guantanamo Bay be denied right to a trail on the
basis that it would be a one size fits all cookie cutter approach?

Come on Don, don't let devious use of language colour your views when it
comes to justice and the need to protect our most precious resource - our
children..

Perhaps this is the ultimate Orwellian argument - protecting the cookie
cutter approach of treating fathers as unsuitable parents unless they can
mount a legal cases proving themselves to be different.

Regards,
Simon Hunt
PARENTS AGAINST INSTITUTIONALISED CHILD ABUSE
Mornington
Phone: +61 (0)3 5973 6933
Mobile: 0414 415 693
vascopajama@dodo.com.au
http://mumsdadsandkidsagainstsolecust.blogspot.com/
http://thefamilycourtphenomenon.blogspot.com/
www.dashlite.com.au

Equal time parenting after separation - the solution that removes the
problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: <don.farrell@alp.org.au>
To: <email@dashlite.com.au>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: What about Men's Health

Dear Simon,

Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding the
Family Law Act, and shared parenting in particular.

Labor has recently received a number of emails on this
topic, and we thank you for continuing to keep us informed
of your views and experiences with the operation of the
Family Law system.

Labor believes that the best interests of the child should
be the paramount consideration for decisions on parenting
orders. The Family Law Act currently provides that the best
interests of the child are served by having a meaningful
relationship with both parents, and the protection of the
child from physical and psychological harm and abuse.

Currently, judges have the discretion to make parenting
orders appropriate to individual cases. This is because
every case is unique - no two set of facts and
circumstances are alike and, as such, it is not appropriate
to provide legislative 'one-size fits all' solutions such as
mandated shared custody. Such a solution would not properly
accommodate the wide variety of cases which come before the
Family Court.

In addition, as you may know, a range of changes to the
Family Law system were introduced early last year after
extensive inquiry and consultation by the House of
Representatives Standing Committee on Family and Community
Affairs, which culminated in the Every Picture Tells a Story
report.

The bulk of these changes came into operation midway through
last year, although some are still being implemented. At
this stage, Labor does not have any plans to make further
amendments to the latest changes to the Family Law system,
at least until the most recent round has been in place long
enough to enable a proper assessment of their workings.

Thank you again for your correspondence.

Don Farrell
Labor Candidate for Senate

----- Original Message -----
From: Simon Hunt <email@dashlite.com.au>
To: Don.Farrell@alp.org.au
Subject: What about Men's Health
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:07:40 +1100

Friday, October 26, 2007

The future - http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/

To all,

This is an interesting new eJournal that's starting to have a real impact.
Graham Young its creator was on ABC yesterday.

The journal provides an effective way for everyday people to voice their concerns and raise the issues that they (us) see as important.
Instead of the political agenda being imposed on us, typically by vested interests with big PR budgets, and by the political parties for their own ends.

At last the internet appears to be delivering on its promise ...to wrest control of the media from the vested interests.

You can bet its being closely watched by the politicians during what has become one of the most cynical and contrived election campaigns we've ever seen.

Check it out. ...and have your say.
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/

Please register your view as to what the most important issues to be addressed in this election campaign are.
You've been invited to do so!

I know what mine is - children ..their right to be free of the suffering imposed on them by the Family Courts and their mercenary practitioners, their right to the love and care of both their parents regardless of if they separate, so they can be everything they were meant to be in life. Otherwise what's the point of making anything else better? If our children's lives are blighted forever because we didn't protect them ... from loosing one of their parents to the Family Court, their practitioners and their goons.

Given that children represent our future, this eJourna; represents our opportunity to make politicians realise children are most important to most people.

Regards,
Simon Hunt
PARENTS AGAINST INSTITUTIONALISED CHILD ABUSE
Mornington
Phone: +61 (0)3 5973 6933
Mobile: 0414 415 693
vascopajama@dodo.com.au
http://mumsdadsandkidsagainstsolecust.blogspot.com/
http://thefamilycourtphenomenon.blogspot.com/
www.dashlite.com.au

"Protecting children from having one of their parents removed by the other upon separation".

NB: To be removed from the PARENTS AGAINST CHILD ABUSE email list please email me at vascopajama@dodo.com.au.

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